and one of the other key players is mitch mcconnell. what is the dynamic there do you think? >> i think the president, first time i'm talking about the mutual background on capitol hill, the president may be at a point where he has gotten obama care, which is clearly now not going to be repealed, he has created a bigger government in the direction he wants to go in. and he may want to consolidate and having lived through two solid years of not getting anything done, he may decide he doesn't want to spend four years. the odds are very high the republicans will keep the house in 2014. does he really want four years of gridlock or does he want to take a big step, which is a gamble, open the door, sit down and have genuine conversations? and frankly, as he appoints some new cabinet officers, find some republicans that could serve in the cabinet, in a serious way, that would join ray la hood. he has really been sort of isolated as the secretary of transportation. >> we've seen some comments from both sides and yes we want to try to come up with an agreement, we want to try to exte